[ACCEPTED] Koyomi - Assassination/Combat Rogue

Real Name: Norris
Country: UK
Age: 21
What days and times can you play? (Are you in control of your life?): mon - friday from 16:00 onwards, Weekends all day


IN GAME INFORMATION

Character name: Koyomi
Class: rogue
Race: Bloodelf
Talent specialization: Assasination

Main PVE gear - Armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/lightnings-blade/koyomi/simple

Screenshot of your UI (link):

Time played (/played): 100 days +
Tell us a little about what your class and spec brings to the raid: some additional aggro controll, Mob controll
Excellent dps on single targets with assasination.
TECHNICAL INFORMATION

Is your computer able to handle raids smoothly with addons etc?
AMD-Phenom 9.5k Quad core Processor - handles all addons + Fraps and other running programs without batting a frame
Is your internet connection stable? 50mb Sky broadband, quite stable i believe
You have Ventrilo and microphone? yes


PERSONAL INFORMATION

Past guilds in Lightning's Blade:
Oppressum
Why did you leave your last guild/s?: Disbanded

Raiding experience
Vanilla:
TBC:
WOTLK: All cleared With naxx 10/25 Hms done, Undying Uld 10 and 25 mountruns completed and Alone in the darkness 25 player
7/12 Icc HC
Cata:
BOT halfus, Valiona downed , many many attempts on Council, Magmaw omnitron downed in BWD, with some attempts on Maloriak
Other level 85 characters (link armory): http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/lightnings-blade/jaize/simple

Why would you like to join Heavens Fury?: Brilliant reputation from the past, I wish to be part of a skilled and dedicated team
that i immagine will handle raids with ease, Not a fail grp that has to see a tankspot vidd for every encounter

How can you benefit Heavens Fury?: experience,Amazing dedication (ask ingame about that one) and --inside and out-- knowlege of my class

Do you know any members of Heavens Fury?: afraid not

Additional notes and anything random you'd like to tell us about yourself: Verry Interesting and complicated person irl with
many areas of interes such as science, fiction and certain literature, martial arts and WoW

And last of all, do you have any bad reputation you think we should know about?: No, during my time on LBs i have carved a reputation as nothing but a skilled dps class player

"Not a fail grp that has to see a tankspot vidd for every encounter"

How else should anyone learnt he tactic if he hasn't done the encounter yet? Your idea is that the raid leader has to waste his time explaining it to you beforehand? I don't get your reasoning and I am pretty offended since I am wasting my time to learn the tactics from love2playwow.com.

[sarcasm-mode on]

Well, cba with tankspot, I'd rather waste 5 hours of the raidtime to wipe on the encounters so I can learn the tactics the practial way!

Perhaps i was being a bit vague there - in all pugs and a lot of guildruns vids are whatched boss for boss, when all tactics shouldhave been learned prior to the raid. You need to arrive at a raid knowing all tactics, not having your RL say there on the spot "go see vidds cause i cant explain this" Also theres this thing called PTR where i copy my characters before each new patch, to get to know the newest Dungeons and raids first hand. Much more effective and rewarding in my Opinion.

For instance it helped a great deal to know Halls of reflection and FOS/ Marrowgar / gunship tacts Before prev patch was done

Now it sounds better, +1 from me

Ye, sounds alot better when you put it that way! Anyway, I think you'll have to wait for the other officers to have a look at you. Good luck

Hello Koyomi, I'd like to ask you, Why do you gem for expertise since you are over expertised, which you can easily change the gem that you have from40 expertise to 20 expertise + 20 w/e stat feels more suitable for you and still be capped, also you are over hit capped and still gem for it which again gives you a huge DPS reduce.
Again why do you reforge from Mastery to Expertise since your capped with out that reforge.
As i see from your reforges, you are either really on a mess and dont know what you are doing , or have your own reason which i'd like you to explain. why reforge 2 items from Hit rating to expertise and 2 others from expertise to hit rating, just doesnt make any sence since you could only reforge 1 of each of the items you have from one stat to another and use the other 2 reforges for DPS purposes ( mastery / haste/crit )
Also It's better for an assasin rogue to have Landslide than Hurricane in atleast one dagger , than double hurricane, since you still get the benefitial haste from the one dagger and also get the proc of landslide.
Also most of the achievments that you have , are either from the start of Cata or the Very end of WotlK ( since i dont remember exact dates ), wich shows as that you wherent really a core raider on WotlK
Another point that shows as this , was the fact that you dont have a single kill at the "Grand Crusade". And do not have a progress through ICC, which was the last instance from WotlK,
So my Conclusion , is that you Don't really know what you are doing as a rogue ( unless you can prove my wrong by giving me the reason why you have 2 items thatgo from hit to expertise, and from expertise to hit ) and Also the fact that you are not an "experienced" raider from what i can see.
That's all i can say at this time. And again Reading and watching Videos and tactics about something isn't always a waste of time since it can help you loads of ours of wiping ( since PTR isn't always correct than the real thing )

Let's wait for the Officer's decission

I wish i could afford to put landlide on a Blue dagger - im saving that honor for the 1st epic i got as soon as have the matts. Hurricane on both hands meanwhile is verry usefull as the 2 buffs stack and haste not only increases attack speed but energy regeneration aswell. Now as for being overcapped - thats true for the Soft hitcap on special attacks, but they represent a set portion of my Overall dps in assasination, The bigger portion comes from mele normal hits and poisons which requiere a 17% hit chance to be capped which is unreasonoble at the momment so the best i could do is 14%+.I have found that an Expertase cap of atleast 24, and hit % of 14%+ is requiered effective hit chance. Im not pulling this out of thin air, i have tested many different combinations out on raidbosses and training dummies. I have tried other combinations, done many dps trials and this seems to work best. As for reforging different stats from one item and the reverse from another - different items allowe for different ammounts of stats to be reforged, by doing this and juggling stats right you endup with the desired ammount, and not too much of one or not enough of the other. I am ofc. still trying to improve dps as much as possible. Any and all advice is always welcome.

Again no, You could easily fit 2 items with just hit / exp reforing and set the other from like crit to haste or haste to crit w/e. Also, i have to disagree with you on the part that you say : " Most damage coms from white attacks " Which is no, except if you believe you are in WotlK that ArP is still on. You dont need the extra hit, Also landslide > hurricane, that was my point. Also if you join our guild we'd like you to be fully prepared , like HAVING GOLD for enchanting and gemming to your best ( blehh for this comming from a guy like me ).

Sknoop the golddigger... not!

Well im improving all the time, i dont know if youre viewing an older profile or something. Hmm verry interesting, alot of what youre saying makes sence But look at it like this: If a white hit consists of ~15-16% of overall dps for a rogue and Instant poison is 25-26%, with an average whie hit of 1700 damage and Instant poison of 2800 with a rate of 37 MH +49 OH attacks / min
and a 15% miss chance - how much dps are you going to lose over lets say 1 min?
(((1700+2800)*86)/60)=6450 autoattack + poisons dps only (they come together anyway - if you swing 100 times at an enemy and miss 100 times youre not going to apply any poisons)

6450 being 40-42% (15-16%+25-26%)of your total dps in this case
heres how these fuigures look with a 15% miss chance from expertase below 21 / 10% or below hit chance : 15% of 86 is 12.9 but lets be a little optimistic lets say 12 more hits missed
(((1700=2800)*74)/60)= 5550 this is excluding Slice and Dice and all BL/ Timewarps and additional haste effects

Trust me its not easy, ive done alot of trials and calcs - both in raids on dummies and even HC bosses when theres no pugs available, im still looking for the perfect balance between haste mastery crit and the Hit stats. SO FAR. . . this is what works best, with the current Gear available. -100 Expertase +100haste would mean + 1.25 hits/min added and a 2% additional chance for boss to avoid autoattack hit. i would explain how much damage you would lose if you reforged that into crit or mastery but that would mean another 20 lines.
This is just my view however, Im interested to hear yours

P.S. For the record: Arm. Pene was sooOo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg and when they removed it they ruined my favourite spec there for a while, but it lookslike combat is making a comeback at higher gear lvls.

Oniblade - Sknoop : 1-0 and countiiin!!

Oniblade, Assasin rogues are based on how much they can keep up rupture and spamm envenom ( only when not loosing rupture even for a slightly 1 -2 seconds ), Also the specc ur using now has : Venomous Wounds , and Master Poisoner . so you main dps depends on how you rotate with Rupture and Envenom, So you see that your Main dps doesnt come from auto attacks but in this case from your Rupture and Envenom and how good you are with this rotations. Also What you are saying about combat rogues, that's totally true since i was a big fan of ArP- 15k white dmg crits my self

i personally dont know all that much about rogues so to see about this white hitcapping issue i did some reading online to see if i can find the answer and well i couldnt find a straight yes or no but from what i read it seems like going for hit (to reach white hitcap) is rated as the lowest stat by more then one site (EJ is an example) BUT! then again EJ also said for a week or two that firemages should reforge fully to haste and that proved to be so terribly wrong

cant rly say i could give a straight answer about that issue neither about the apply yet, we discussed it very shortly yesterday with the officers but we didnt decide on anything yet and i think we would have to talk once more so i hope you can be patient and give us a few days

Let me clarify my position - im not gunning for an allout 27% autoattack hit cap which would take a "whopping" 3243 hit rating(excluding any talent points into precision) to be achieved, which would indeed endup in a dps loss. this is a verry high value for the current gear lvl. perhaps as the tiers progress in Cataclysm well get ever closer. . .
Ive also been well aware, and have been making use of venomous wounds from tthe momment the Shattering patch was released. it does however have a verry low crit chance(lower than i would like) and the only way the Energy>damage convertion ratio can turnout in a dps increase is if you Rupture with 4 combo points or above, 3 or less youre beter off using another mutilate, Regardless of rupturing with 4+ points or jsut barely keeping up rupture with 1 point from the Finishing move combo point Venomous wound is always a 9-10% of the total dps, but this is a whole different tangent. What i did want to say is that rupture and venomous wound combined represent a 10.5-12.5% and are indeed only dependant largely on mastery and AP (rupture can still miss) so is the deadly poison DOT - 14-15% and envenom-~9-11%max damage. Which is why i am a big fan of mastery in assasination spec atm. Ive done as much as possible to keep my mastery stats. But Mutilate 16-18.5%(MH+OH damage) auto attacks 15-16% and by default instant poison 25-26% are all very much exp/hit dependant. (Mastery =>[**sign for "therefore"] is boosting instant poison damage, which is why i chose accuracy stats and mastery). to summup the AP dependant damage at the verry best represent 38.5%/ while hit damage at verry worst represents 56% of total damage. im not jsut some kid stacking shiny stats, ive thought this out and tested it. I hope i have jsutified my gemming/reforging patterns.

I really enjoyed reading all your posts and having this little back and forth debate. Liked the dedication and insight that ppl provided, and ya got me thinking alot too. Thats what i want to be a part of mostly - a grp. with insight and dedication.
OK ill stop kissing ass now and leave the Officers to decide

you seem to me like a nice guy, most ppl when faced with question they dont agree with they will just say no or just not reply or they will reply in a not so friendly way but unfortunately i dont think we need any more melee dps and if we do decide to take one in im not quite sure it would be a rogue, id like to see what the other officers think as well tho but from me right now due to the situation it is a no

Hey oni, I totally get your point , but please explain me. why do you choose AP and Mastery over Haste and Crit ? Can you Justify me that? Since WotlK Haste and crit Overcome Attack Power and well, Mastery is good, but it wont help you that much both in Bosses that you need to switch and lets say it, bosses that ur mostly tanking and spanking. Haste is better for an assasin rogue over Mastery, even though u should have enough master from your gear ( hence no rogue enchants / gems mastery and preffers haste ) haste will also make you attack faster ( pfft u should know that already but w/e ) which will again make your Poisons attach easier to the target , and well lets say ur not white attack damage capped - which will give you most likely ~ 30 - 45 chance to not hit the target and not apply Instant Poison , BUT you should know since Cataclysm came out, Assasin rogues are useless with out Rupture- just pointing out

Hmmm. Contact me ingame if you Change your mind.
and thanks again.